UNIVERSITY BLOGS: Homelander vs. The Immortal (The Boys vs. Invincible)
Homelander vs. The Immortal (The Boys vs. Invincible)
The Homelander,
The Immortal,
These two traumatized super powered beings have had more than there fair share of hate gathered about them in their time on screen. So obviously this matchup has been a common talking point. But which one of these fraudulent characters would win if they came to have a brawl? Dig in and find out!
Before We Start…
These guys have both had tons of source material to pull from. So to make this concise they will be limited to their TV show appearances, alongside anything canon to those shows (or at least canon adjacent).
So for Homelander;
Included:
- The Boys TV Show
- Gen V
- 3 Episodes of The Boys Presents: Diabolical [confirmed canonicity]
- The Boys: Trigger Warning [confirmed canonicity]
- Vought Social Media [technically not confirmed but is literally official and in line with the show]
Excluded:
- The Boys Comics
- Call Of Duty
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
- DC: KO
- Legendary Game Of Heroes
- PUBG
- Baby Laser Tag [don't ask]
For The Immortal
Included
- Invincible TV Show
- Invincible: Guarding The Globe [questionably confirmed canonicity]
Excluded
- Invincible Comics
- Marvel Comics
- Invincible VS
An additional thing to note is that, while Immortal's from other timelines, like King Immortal, will be considered for many things such as Immortal's mindset and feats, they will not be utilized to give Immortal any of their equipment. As that strays too far to the point of comping Immortal.
Background
Homelander
John, or as he likes to be called; Homelander, was born to a kind loving mom in a nice home playing baseball and celebrating many a birthday.....is what I would be saying if he was born in any sense of normalcy. Alass, Homelander did not have the good normal childhood he should've. He was born in 1981, created in a Vought laboratory, where he would be continually tortured and experimented on by Vought scientists until they had created the 'perfect' superhero.
The Homelander (changed to Homelander to sound cleaner).
Even the start of Homelander's career was filled with hardship, though. As the freshly 18 superhero would be groomed and manipulated by Madelyn Stillwell, whom made him believe Black Noir was out to get him. This mindset on top of him accidentally killing a woman and injuring a man, would lead to a sociopathic outburst in which he would murder several more people (accidentally and otherwise). Being the first of many coverups for his murders which would likely influence his later actions.
From abandoning a plane full of people so it wouldn't be revealed he failed to save them all, to killing his followers just for the Hell of it, Homelander racked up many atrocities under his moniker. But one of these would result in his ultimate downfall. That being raping a woman named Becca Butcher, wife of Billy Butcher. Resulting in years of feud between the two as Billy seeked revenge for his raped, and seemingly dead wife. Getting to the point where he would threaten quite possibly on of the only people Homelander really loved; the afformentioned Madelyn Stillwell. Threatening to explode her with C4 if Homelander didn't give him answers on his late wife Becca. But Homelander had other plans, as he had found out that Stillwell had actually been lying to Homelander about Becca and his son, and manipulated him so he wouldn't realize. So he killed her himself. Realizing he had lost his only leverage, Billy activated the C4 in an attempt to kill himself and maybe Homelander. But Homelander didn't just save Billy Butcher, but additionally showed him his wife alongside Homelander's child.
Butcher after being taken away after seeing this, tried to save his wife and maybe even help her son. But after Ryan accidentally killed Becca while she was being strangled by Stormfront, Butcher had to send Ryan (Homie's kid) off to a safehouse. From there it would be a constant back and fourth between sides as Ryan would constantly be swayed to help the other. The family drama getting even more turbulent when Soldier Boy, Homelander's father, would be re-awakened. Originally trying to kill Homelander, but slowly switching sides after Butcher betrayed him and put him back in stasus. Soldier Boy, helping Homelander, would let Homelander have V-One, an experimental previous version of Compound-V that allowed the user immortality and enhanced power. Because Clara would've wanted it.
Before and after obtaining and quickly using V-One, Homelander would campaign for everyone to view him as not just a superhero, but a God. Why you may ask? Because he had been enlightened by a vision of an angel, who said he had to fulfill his destiny for Godhood. In his campaign Homelander would seek out more and more power. At this point having gone from being a superhero, to the Vought CEO, to even influencing the President and sitting in his chair. Making the whitehouse his semi-home.
In the end though, it all culminated in one final clash. Billy Butcher, Ryan, and Kimiko (one of many of Butcher's partners in his charade against supes) would all come to fight the newly "enlightened" Homelander. While he tried his best, and even tried to escape, the three were (somehow) too much for him. Butcher's super cancer, Ryan's natural superpowers, and Kimikos newly obtained Soldier Boy powers overwhelmed Homelander. In the end having him be grappled down and turned into a normal human via an irradiated blast from Kimiko. In a final show of his true inner patheticness, Homelander was killed by the very man he slighted years ago. Truly full circle.
The Immortal
Abraham Li-I mean the Immortal has been alive for many centuries. He's been on many an adventure, and taken up many roles over his lifespan. Whether it be a knight, the president of the USA, or, his most well known role, a superhero! Of which Immortal was the most powerful of them all! The strategy for more powerful threats as such becoming "Send in Immortal first, ask questions never."
His role as the most powerful superhero would lead him to become part of the Guardians of the Globe. The world's premier superhero team and one host to many similarly great heros and heroines. But as the years went on, a man came to Earth that would push Immortal out of his top of the superhero list role. Infact, he was not just a man, but--an OMNI-Man! This newly appointed superhero would become a great friend of Immortal and the Guardians of the Globe, acting as a reserve member of sorts.
Omni-Man's reserved role and friendship would grant him trust amongst his pears, of course including Immortal. But this would be used against them; as Omni-Man would betray and murder them as part of his plan to conquer Earth. But this was not where Immortal's story ended. As two of the many villains of the Immortal, the Mauler' twins, would dig up his grave. Bringing him into their lab, where they would attempt to bring him back to life and control his mind with a mind controlling "obedience" collar.
Little did they know, that Robot had seemingly given them faulty schematics for the collar. Resulting in Immortal being brought back to life, but not under any mind control. And so as any murdered-but-not-dead-anymore-man would do, Immortal went flying out of their hideout to go find the man who killed him and his friends; Omni-Man! And he would find him....rather quick actually. Going intensely fast, he caught Omni-Man off guard. Hammering into Omni-Man, he'd have the edge at first. But Omni-Man's ruthlessness was too much. As Immortal was dead once more.
Since then, he's been revived a couple times, always coming back to try and help where he can. Even after he married Dupli-Kate, his newfound (and-uh, young superheroine lover), he still tried to help until he finally retired. Traumatized and scarred from both his experience in the Invincible War, as well as, and mostly, his past battles with Omni-Man. But no matter any of that, in his heart lays a true hero, no matter his losses.
Experience & Skill
Homelander
Combat Prowess
While it isn't fantastic or anything, and he does rely on strength a bit, it is still notable he isn't a bad fighter. He was able to fight against Soldier Boy and later in the fight Soldier Boy and Billy Butcher at the same time, both of whom are pretty well experienced fighters (Soldier Boy is a questionably trained war "hero" and Butcher is a trained soldier formely in SAS who has fended off other former SAS members). He additionally fought against Maeve well despite her having trained for over four months up to that point.
Supe Combat
Homelander is very experienced in fighting against other superheroes with a wide range of powers. He's fought Black Noir, a Batman-like in the gif, has fought a super soldier, a guy with the same powers as him, and a teleporting supe (Soldier Boy, Billy Butcher, and Hughie Campbell) all at once. He was tested against supes even as a young child. He's so well versed against supes that he has killed at least 9 of them.
Intimidation
While he obviously has more directly intimidated people, as seen above, as well as in his speech against Starlight, he more frequently is shown intimidating via his presence alone. He uses his intimidation to manipulate the Seven to do his bidding, whether it be for bigger stuff like being intimidating enough to get A-Train to snitch on Supersonic (getting him killed which he used to intimidate Starlight) to smaller stuff like getting Deep to blow A-Train (which Deep almost did). He also manipulates people in high positions like Victoria Neuman and even the US President.
Body Knowledge
Homelander is actually quite knowledgeable on the human body and how to use that knowledge to his advantage. He knew how to burst Blindspot's eardrums without destroying the rest of his head, and he has used his super hearing to detect abnormal blood pressure and heart rates that indicate fear.
The Immortal
Combat Prowess
The Immortal adept combatant. He was fighting as a superhero for at least twenty years (as he was said as an option to be sent against Omni-Man when Omni-Man had first visited Earth twenty years ago) but his combat experience goes way past that. As he was a olden warrior and a medieval knight centuries ago, both of whom would likely put him against several trained men such as himself.
Supe Combat
The Immortal has fought a tough array of super powered combatants in his years as a superhero. He has fought the Mauler Twins on at least two occasions. He has fought superpowered bugs and, most notably, the top dogs of his verse. Viltrumites. He has fought against Omni-Man both alongside his team and solo, and has done the same for Invincible (albeat, the latter being in an alternate timeline but is still notable).
Leadership + Teamwork
Swordsmanship
As a medieval not prior to his heroism, the Immortal likely has the swordsmanship and training any good knight would. Medieval knights would spend countless hours hoaning their skills, becoming a master with a sword.
Breath Holding
Equipment
Homelander
Super Suit
The main man's iconic super suit. While it is of course fashionable, it also comes with some additonal perks such as it's seemingly insane durability, as it has survived explosions, heat vision, and even getting hit by Kimiko's gigantic blast. This is further supported by the fact it has extremely durable and heat resistance tactile suit fabric, equally tactile, heat resistant, and durable gloves that he can feel things through, and epaulets that are made of reinforced medals.
Milk Bottles
Baseball
Used in a game of catch with his son. Something he himself never got to experience.
Baseball Mitt
How else would he catch the baseball?
Ear Phone Communicator
An earphone that Homelander periodically uses to communicate with a person at Vought knowledgeable of the mission.
Stasus Chamber
Stash Of Items
A hidden away stash of various items consisting of a picture of Stormfront in her Nazi hay-day, his grey hairs, and a milk bottle.
Blanket
Baseball Bats
A bag of 3 baseball bats Homelander gave to Deep, A-Train, and Black Noir 2 for them to kill some of his followers.
Chair
Tracking Chip
Every hero on the Seven has a tracking chip, as evidenced by the fact Black Noir, Starlight, and Translucent had ones. They're hidden under their skin and can be used to find out their location remotely from Vought Tower.
Paper Ball & Trash Can
Hose
Roses
Vought Keycard
Not something we see Homelander use directly, but he likely has considering he was mad at Deep for not having his. It can be used to unlock certain doors at the Vought tower.
Tub
A tub Homelander filled with milk. Because of course he did.
Cake
A cake gifted to his scientist creators. I'm sure this won't lead to him brutally murdering them all.
Crown Of Thorns
Bucket
The Homelander Bible
Excuse me sir this book is peak.
M4A1 Submachine Gun
A gun Homelander took from a criminal after brutally murdering him to cover their tracks and make it seem like he shot first. Which, by his wording, he has done a lot.
Eagle Statue
Vought Burger
Yummers.
Compound-V
56 vials of supe goodness. While their superheroic affects on human's are miscellaneous--if it is injected into those who have powers it will either restore the powers they had before (if they lost their powers) or amplify their pre-existing powers (if they still have their powers) although the latter being at the cost of long lasting health side effects such as heart issues that can cause heart attacks. It can also be used to revive those who were on death's door.
V-One
The original version of Compound-V. While it's overall affects are ambiguous, it was said to be "10x more potent" and stops the aging process. It's potency is also likely behind the many ehanced features it gives the user, as it gives them a sudden boost in power, and a near complete immunity to severe radiation. Technically this is non-standard, since Homelander has already used it and only had one syringe of it. But it felt worthwhile to mention for clarification.
Homander Coin
Homander coin. Worth 7 dollars 🤑🤑.
Immortal
Super Suit
Immortal's clean ass suit brought to you by Art himself (As confirmed in this flashback scene). The suits Art's makes are top notch. They are the go to for superheroes after all. And for good reason too, as they have tanked stuff anywhere from electricity and lava all the way to fucking orbital lasers and gigantic missiles.
Medieval Knight Armor
A set of medieval knight armor Immortal was shown to wear for a time. Similar knight armor weighed around 15-25 kilograms and was tough enough to be near Invincible to sword strikes as well as similar slashing and piercing weapons such as axes and arrows. And while it wasn't built for it, it can technically take some hits from blunt weapons like maces. A powerful armor for a powerful man, fitting.
Presidential Hat
While it may seem normal at first, this hat actually possesses some interesting capabilities. Being that when the Immortal is injured enough, it applies confusion to enemies for a couple seconds and charging him and his allies skills by 15%(more with upgrades).
Old Alcohol
Stick
A stick he killed fish with.
GDA Earpiece
A standard GDA Earpiece that allows Cecil to communicate with heroes when needed. While primarily shown to be used by Invincible, other heroes such as Atom Eve have shown to use it, so it is likely Immortal has one as well.
Sword
A centuries old sword he likely used for fighting rivals. He also had a more recent but still medieval sword shown off in the same flashback scene.
Mop
Guardians Of The Globe Bracelet
Used to both summon, and recieve summons from Guardians Of The Globe members.
Chair
GYATTT 🤤😋
Modules
- Health Module - Module used to increase the health stat of a totem.
- Attack Module - Module used to increase the attack stat of a totem.
- Defense Module - Module used to increase the defense stat of a totem.
- Critical Chance Module - Module used to increase the critical chance stat of a totem.
- Critical Damage Module - Module used to increase the critical damage stat of a totem.
- Energy Attack Module - Module used to increase the energy attack stat of a totem.
- Physical Attack Module - Module used to increase the physical attack stat of a totem.
- Energy Resistance Module - Module used to increase the energy resistance stat of a totem.
- Life Leech - Module used to increase the life leech stat of a totem.
Artifacts
Collectable items that provide the characters in Invincible: GTG different perks.
- Flaxan Defense Barrier - The ranged Heroes present in the team receive a defense bonus equal to 9% of the wielder's defense.
- Flaxan Spray Gun - Decreases the refill speed of the cooldown of all human enemies by 6%.
- GDA Spy Drone - Decreases the critical hit chance of ranged enemies by 7% for each “Original Guardian Of The Globe” or “Guardian Of The Globe” ally.
- Medkit - Increases wielder's healing effects by 8%.
- Body Enhancement - Increases critical chance by 9% for each “Original Guardian Of The Globe” or “Guardian Of The Globe” in your team.
- Damien Darkblood's Notes - Decreases the defense of all “human” enemies by 8%
- Guardians Of The Globe Bracelet - When a hero uses it, they acquire the Original Guardians Of The Globe tag, and then increase their own defense by 3% for each Original Guardian Of The Globe and Guardian Of The Globe present on the team.
- Battle Hologram - When the Hero uses their ability, it reduces their allies’ cooldown by 6%.
- Neural-Link Chip - When a Hero uses it, it gives all Heroes present in the team a bonus equal to 3% of the wielder's stats if the wielder is facing themself.
- GDA Cloaking Device - The Hero using it becomes invisible for 3 seconds, and their critical damage is increased by 35% for 3 seconds. The Cloaking Device is triggered every 16 seconds.
- Burger Mart Burger - When the Hero's HP drops below 20%, it heals all allies by 20% and increases their attack by 3% for 5 seconds. Cooldown of 50 seconds.
- Flaxan Drone Trap - When the hero receives a debuff, it silences the enemy for 3s and decreases their defense by 15% for 3s.
- Cerulean Cosmos Flower - When any ally's HP drops below 25%, removes all negative effects on them and applies healing over time equal to 15% hero's current HP for 10s. Cooldown of 40s.
- Obedience Collar - Once every 21 seconds, applies a confusion state on a random enemy for 3 seconds, while increasing the enemy's attack by 30% for 3 seconds.
- Flaxan Anti-Aging Bracelet - Reduces the Hero's main ability cooldown by 6%.
- Martian Spear - Every 11 seconds, damages a random enemy at melee range for 70% of the wielder's attack.
- Mark Grayson's Earpiece - Every 16s, creates an explosion around a random target that deals AOE damage equal to 50% of the target's attack power and leaves a damage over time effect, dealing 45% of the Hero's attack power to the target for 10s.
- Burger Mart Trash Bag - Upon receiving a critical hit, the wielder throws the Burger Mart Trash Bag around them, decreasing a random stat on nearby enemies by 10% for 5 seconds and applying damage over time equal to 400% of the wielder's defense for 5 seconds. Cooldown: 15 seconds.
- GDA Healing Gel - When the hero applies any buff to an ally, it also applies a healing over time effect equal to 85% of their defense stat for 8s.
- Flaxan Staff - If an enemy deals more than 6% of a Hero's max HP as damage in a single hit, they deal the same damage back, pushing the enemy back and stunning them for 1 second. Cooldown: 10 seconds.
- Medical Headband - The device triggers an area of effect, healing all other allies present inside for 20% of the damage received. Cooldown: 3 seconds.
- Oxygen Helmet - Increases Hero's defense by 60% for 15 seconds at the start
- of the wave.
- Flaxan Stun Device - When an enemy receives healing, the device stuns them for 3 seconds and applies electric damage over time, dealing a total of 150% of the enemy”’s current HP over 10 seconds. Flying enemies fall to the ground when affected. Cooldown: 12 seconds.
- Vitals Pad - Increase healing effects received by 20%.
- Thraxan Armor - Adds the tag "Leader" to the wielder. Additionally, applies a shield of 20% of the current HP to the wielder for 5 seconds every 30 seconds.
- Kanzlok - When the wielder reaches 1 HP, they receive an immunity shield and 20% attack increase for 5 seconds. In addition, the main skill charges by 25%. Cooldown: 60 seconds.
- GDA Mines - GDA mines boost all AOE damage dealt by the wielder by 10%. Additionally, upon launching the main ability, 3 mines explode randomly at unique targets, dealing 60% of the wielder's damage as AOE.
- Thraxans Jetpack - Flying heroes get a damage boost of 3.5% when attacking enemies with the Grounded tag.
- Golden Apple - The Golden Apple boosts the final wave count in the wielder's assigned GDA Op by 5%, thereby increasing its final rewards.
- Mauler Twin (The Original) - This cell grants the wielder the 'Mauler' Tag, boosting the team's Max HP by 3% per allied Mauler present (excluding self).
- Mauler Twin (Not The Clone) - This cell grants the wielder the 'Mauler' Tag, boosting the team's Life Leech by 1% per allied Mauler present (excluding self).
- Ragnar's Claw - Critical hits deal additional damage equal to 5% of the wielder's current HP. Cooldown: 3 seconds.
- Neural Disruptor - All allies gain a 10% boost to Energy Defense and Healing Received while the wielder is on the battlefield. Additionally, when an ally is affected by Confusion, the Neural Disruptor emits a pulse that removes Confusion from all allies and stuns the triggering enemy for 2 seconds. Cooldown: 12 seconds.
- Rescue Wristband - When an ally's HP drops below 7.5%, the wielder fires a Teleport Dart at them. The target is teleported to the back line and is healed for 7.5% of their Max HP. It can be used 2 times per wave.
Abilities
Homelander
Heat Vision
Homelander's most powerful attack he has had before he was technically even born. He can temper its effectiveness to have more or less power output. Such as when he used it to slowly burn Madelyn Stillwell and heat up a milk bottle but showed earlier to melt through a plane (something that is composed of aluminum, which has a melting point of 1220 degrees fahrenheit). They additonally are easily able to heat things up to 500 degrees Fahrenheit and Butcher's lasers (which are directly comparable to Homelander's) are hot enough to hurt Solider Boy, who was able to take blow torches burning his skin 6332 degrees Fahrenheit. Outside of their heat, they are relevant through their precision, as they move just as fast as Homelander can move his eyes meaning he can use them precisely enough to intercept knives quickly flying at him or aim at a criminal holding a gun from far away.
Flight
What really needs to be said? He can fly! He obviously has great control over it as he has been flying since the moment he was born (just like his laser vision), hoaning the ability further and further, being able to break the sound barrier even at a young age. Although, unlike a lot of other flying superheroes (really stretching the word here) he cannot make his own leverage while in the air. Leaving him to be less physically powerful while occupying the skies.
Super Hearing
One of Homelander's many superior senses, he has shown surprisingly good hearing. He can hear Butcher's name while way high in the sky (likely several hundred feat), hear A-Train lightly whisper under his breath, and can precisely listen in to people's heart beats and blood pressure. His hearing is not only good if used precisely, but it makes things so clear to that specially crafted sound weaponry (Sonic Whistles) affects him.
Regeneration
As you can see by the image above this isn't an ability that's particularly potent or shown off much. But it does exist. Lesser supes such as Starlight and A-Train have shown this ability off for example; With Starlight having the skin on her wrists completely torn off yet later showing up with her wrists entirely healed only a few hours (at max) later. And A-Train had heart surgery yet was said to have a faster healing process than a human. Homelander has technically shown off this ability himself though if you need more assurance, as he had intense scarring on his face from a radiation chamber, yet next episode he was perfectly fine. While he has had a longer lasting bruise after his fight with Soldier Boy, it was more likely a result of Soldier Boy's radiation making him less resistant and able to regenerate from Soldier Boy's attacks than a direct outlier.
X-Ray Vision
Newly improved and able to see through copper....but not zinc! Jokes aside, he can see through walls as [seen above]. He can hone his vision to see just through a person's clothing like when he saw through Black Noir's mask or through their skin like when he saw into Butcher's body (twice) to both see his tumor as well as his new found cancer power.
Reactive Evolution
It is said that, under the right amount of pressure supes powersets can be boosted beyond their normal capabilities. This capability has been showcased by John directly, as he not only has he pushed his strength to the point of overpowering three supes who were physically dominating him just before while under the pressure of having his powers stripped. Additionally, supes like Kimiko and Godolkin have pushed their powers past their previous limits (even though both were technically under slightly varied circumstances, the main variable of constant power use and pressure seems to be the same).
Super Smell
Don't mind the gif. Homelander's smell is so good he can naturally recognize a person purely from their scent. Whether it be directly like him smelling Hughie from his sweat or purely from a person being around another like the times he smelt Butcher on Queen Maeve and Ryan.
Super Strength
The titular and most prevalent "supe" ability, it is what it says on the tin. Homelander himself is the strongest Compound-V supe of them all, (Hell, if you want proof, he's killed 9 different supes himself). And while he wasn't able to lift the plane directly, his statements about not being able to lift the plane only because he doesn't have leverage imply he could if he did. Meaning Homelander is....pretty strong!
Super Speed
Homelander's speed both on ground and in flight are to be reckoned with. He can react and move at speeds that make people look like they're moving in slow motion (as seen above) and shoot forward at the slightest bit of sound. In the air he can move even faster. Fast enough to go to space an back and outpace a C4 explosion.
Immortality
While he originally had to deal with the consequences of age, Homelander eventually got his hands on V-One, which now makes him unable to age. Allowing him type 1 (eternal life) immorality.
The Immortal
Flight
Immortal, much like viltrumites, can propel himself into the air using flight. While not directly confirmed by Kirkman or the show, it can be inferred that it works similary if not the same to a Viltrumite's version of flight. Which works off building constant momentum to go at super speeds. In addition to that, their version of flight allows them to create their own leverage, not having to worry about all that annoying "physics" stuff.
Super Strength
Despite being seen as a fodder, the Immortal has shown he is very strong. He has shown strong enough to throw people out of the atmosphere and into space and should be stronger than Martian Man who was shown strong enough to throw tanks. He can hit hard as well, being able to hurt the likes of Omni-Man and Invincible both in the future, as well as his no goggles counterpart and in an alternate universe.
Super Speed
Immortality
He wouldn't have his name if he wasn't Immortal. But Immortal has not one but numerous types of Immortality. First being the classic type 1 (eternal life) Immortality. As you can see from the gif, Immortal has lived for centuries without showing any sign of age, and once had flashbacks to various centuries from the past where once again he looked the same age. He additionally can be brought back if his parts are put back together which you can argue is either type 3 (regenerative), 4 (ressurection), or both type 3 & 4 immortality depending on how you look at it. Additonally, Immortal has shown to still be able to fight while having a hole in his stomach which would normally kill a human, indicating he likely has a low form of type 2 (resilient) immortality.
Regeneration
Invincible: Guarding The Globe Abilities
Invincible: Guarding The Globe gives Immortal four unique abilties to help him in battle.
- Bringing Down The Boom - The Immortal flies upwards out of view before violently smashing into the ground, dealing 500% of his base damage, pushing and stunning nearby enemies for 3 seconds. In addition, it reduces the affected enemies' energy defense by 20% for 7 seconds. Cooldown 17 seconds.
- Timely Assistance - The Immortal reduces the damage received from Viltrumites by 40% for his team. In addition, the life leech of Original Guardians of the Globe allies increases by 10%.
- Staying Alive - When The Immortal's HP reaches 10%, he becomes immune for 5 seconds and boosts his energy attack by 60% for 7 seconds. The ability has a cooldown of 15 seconds.
- Shared Healing - When an ally gets healed, The Immortal receives 13% of the healing effect. The ability is always active.
Resistances
Homelander
- Extreme Heat: One of Homelander's worst memories shows off his insane resilience to heat. That being when the Vought scientists put him in an oven to see if his skin would burn, which it didn't. The same oven later was showed to burn away a man's skin with ease. As a young adult he was fine after a firey factory explosion and he should be more resistant than his father, Soldier Boy, who can tank a blow torch burning at 6332 degrees Fahrenheit.
- Mind Control: Should be comparable to his father who resisted Mindstorm's mind control which worked instantaneously on Butcher. This is backed up by the fact that a likely inferior supe, Marie Moreau, was too powerful for Godolkin’s mind control initially despite him being able to not just mind control one but multiple people at one time at this point.
- Electricity: A less durable supe, Translucent, was hit with enough amps to drop a water buffalo and yet was fine. Even 12,000 volt cattle prods are only enough to lightly pain cattle for comparison. And another weaker supe, Sam, was able to directly tank a stun rod for several seconds before being knocked out and later waking up only dazed. Likely not as potent stun rods can yield 9 million volts of electricity.
- Pain: Despite how pathetic he was in the finale, he has shown to be able to power through pain pretty well. For example, he has lasered into himself without flinching and got stabbed in the ear yet was still ready to keep fighting.
- Acid: Victoria Neuman, who should be massively weaker (she seemingly tried to head explode him an it didn't work) than Homelander, easily tanked acid with no issue.
- Viruses: States Anthrax wouldn't hurt him and Ryan and an intelligent scientist stated that a virus potent enough to kill Homelander would cause a global pandemic....and said virus was later made completely meaningless once Homelander got V-One, rendering him immune to the virus.
- Radiation: Stayed within a supe-proof chamber filled with uranium that was said to be able to kill a normal human in minutes seemingly for hours, later then escaping despite being near entirely de-powered. After he took V-One, he became near completely immune to it.
- Holophane, Novichok, and likely other poisonous gasses: Should have the same immunity to holophane and resistance to Novichok (at best it would've only knocked him out for a time) which are two deadly gasses after taking V-One. Due to this he likely would resist the affects of other inhaled gasses like the gas Malchemical had knocked him out with before.
The Immortal
- Pain: Immortal is quite the pain taker, still capable of fighting while having a hole punched through his stomach in the main universe, as well as fight while missing an arm in an alternate timeline.
- High Temperatures: Immortal has fought in deserts and in a lava filled place underground without showing any sign of being hot. He additionally should likely be above Invincible in Season 1 and Titan, both of which were hit with lava and yet were unscarred. Lava can be as hot as 2282 degrees Fahrenheit.
- Mind Control (debatable): While it could be easily argued that the schematics Robot gave were faulty, there's also an arguement to be made that Immortal simply resisted the effect of the obedience collar.
- Radiation: A villain whose suit was lined with plutonium was easily grabbed by Immortal with no affect on him.
- Electricity: Immortal should be above Season 1 Invincible who was hit with electricity and had no scars as well as Monster Girl who faired the same.
- Tiredness: He fought No Goggles Mark in egypt on day one of the Invincible War and was still fighting him on day three of the war in Guardians HQ. Getting no rest for two days without showing any sign of tiredness.
Weaknesses
Homelander
- Was psychologically manipulated at conception to have a need for approval and love. Leaving him to have instability if that need isn't met. No matter how much he tries to deny it.
- He cannot see through zinc
- Has been shown to be easily blinded on multiple occasions
- If he is hit with a large enough amount of radiation, it will fry the Compound-V in his body and he will completely lose his powers
- Due to his increased hearing, specialized sound weapons, such as the Sonic Whistle, will hurt him. (Although it is notable less affective on him than other supes)
- Has an extremely easy to trigger temper. To the extent he has killed a person he needed info from just because they angered him, and threatened to kill people overthem wanting to be saved. It also plays into his fragile ego, as he has had visions of mass murder simply because a crowd hated him.
- Is somewhat short sighted, occasionally acting without thinking of the ramifications. Such as when he caused Flight 37 after lasering through a man and accidentally hitting the plane controls behind him.
- Is viemently overconfident, since he views himself as above all others (literally having a god complex). This is best shown through the fact he kept the Boys, and primarily, Butcher, alive through so many seasons. Since he never actually believed they could beat him. Showing how his self thought superiority clouds his judgement.
The Immortal
- His body is vulnerable to attacks that target his nervous system, as they can stun him for extended periods of time.
- Is somewhat unstable and untrusting. In his own words he didn't trust Invincible and Allen, easily being triggered by Allen in particular due to thinking he was with Omni-Man. He also went insane after centuries of being king, supporting he is susceptible to falling into an unstable and erratic mindset.
Feats
Homelander
Overall
- Won the Seven Battle Royale in a definitely fair and just way (technically official)
- Went full scorched office
- Was the most famous and beloved supehero of all time
- Stopped a terrorist....oh
- Was the leader of the Seven and lead....decently well
- Had many people in America either love or fear him
Power
- Could bend a metal railing with ease
- As a child could dent a thick metal door with his punches
- Pushed a guy out a window easily
- Destroyed his trailer
- Casually ripped Web Weaver apart
- Snapped Doppleganger's neck (1680-8540 newtons of force) [Atheltic Human-Class 1]
- Ashely says that every supe can bench press 10000lbs [44482.2 newtons of force) [Class 5]
- Accidentally ripped someone's jaw off (72485.977 newtons of force) [Class 10]
- Threw a dude far (1494572 newtons of force) [Class M]
- Implied he could lift an airplane if he had leverage (6672.3-3558577.29 newtons of force) [Class 1-M]
- Threw a baseball extremely far (322283304800 newtons) [Class G]
- Turned a man's head to paste (3-3.9 kilojoules) [Street Level]
- Could throw a slab of concrete hard (39 kilojoules) [Wall Level]
- Created a crater by slamming into the ground (4.4 megajoules) [Wall Level]
- Destroyed a plane with his lasers (0.0014-0.0042 tons of tnt) [Wall-Wall+ Level]
- Stan Edgar compared his strength to that of a neutron bomb (1 kiloton of tnt) [Small Town Level] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
- Has multiple statements indicating he could wipe New York off the map, one from himself and one from the primary creator of the Boys TV show (0.49-1.7 megatons) [Large Town-Small City Level] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
- After injecting V-One, Homelander shot giant lasers, which could be seen from across the world (181.56-4.600e+9 megatons of tnt) [Mountain-Multi-Contitental] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
- Flew extremely fast at Soldier Boy (above)
- Casually dodged Butcher's laser vision
- Moved fast enough to disarm armed men and women who moved in slow motion compared to him
- Caught up to a Learjet 31 Plane (277.83 m/s) [Subsonic+]
- Could break the sound barrier as a child (>343 m/s) [Transonic]
- Went at Mach 1.5 whilst searching for Translucent (520.6 m/s) [Supersonic]
- Said he could see something from space, meaning he'd need to reach escape velocity (11184.9 m/s) [High Hypersonic]
- Brought himself and Butcher out of a C4 explosion's range (6274.5 m/s-12138 m/s) [Hypersonic+-High Hypersonic]
- Flew from New York to Syria (505.7-50572.2 m/s) [Supersonic-Massively Hypersonic]
- Brought Elon Musk to space (99813 m/s) [Massively Hypersonic]
Durability
- Was thrown around a room enough to fracture the walls multiple times (above)
- Doesn't even flinch at several different types of gunfire shooting at him
- Was hit with a bus and falling debris and was fine
- Him having sex with Stormfront destroyed the room around them
- OWE
- Is unphased by a guy running fast enough at him to break their own nose (815 joules) [Street Level]
- Was thrown through a table (273.3 kilojoules) [Wall Level]
- Was unscathed after a factory explosion point blank (20.56 tons of tnt) [City Block Level]
- Madelyn Stillwell says there isn't isn't a weapon on Earth that they haven't tried and failed to kill him with. Which would include the Tsar Bomba (50-58 megatons of tnt) [City-City+ Level] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
The Immortal
Overall
- Was the Earth's most powerful superhero before Omni-Man
- Has been alive for centuries
- Constantly puts his life on the line to fight foes greater than himself
- Was one of the primary members of what was the world's greatest superhero team, the Guardians of the Globe
- Views suicide as a cowards escape
- WHERE IS OMNI-MAN
Power
- Put the hands on Omni-Man (above)
- Teared through a metal roof just by flying into it
- Created a massive cloud of dust and a crater by flying into Omni-Man
- Hit No Goggles Mark so hard he collapsed through the ground
- Cracked a glass by flying Invincible into it
- Easily threw multiple men into the air
- Stomped Komodo Dragon so hard he fell through the concrete floor
- Destroyed a pillar with Invincible's body
- Threw Bi-Plane into space (23256922 newtons of force) and (1.18 tons of tnt)[Class M] and [Building Level]
- Created a gigantic shockwave while fighting against Omni-Man (0.9 megatons of tnt) [Large Town Level]
- Personally took 10 cities off the map for resisting (15.61-7.272e+4 teratons of tnt) [Country-Multi-Continental Level] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
Speed
- Flew towards Omni-Man at Mach 3 (1029 m/s) [Supersonic+]
- Flew fast away from Earth (505807.1-1022148 m/s) [Massively Hypersonic+]
- Personally took 10 cities off the map for resisting (1.25% SOL) [Sub-Relativistic] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
Durability
- Was smashed against a concrete wall so hard is cratered yet was fine
- Was thrown hard enough into a steel beam to heavily dent it yet his body was left undamaged
- Was slammed hard into a wall by Sequids yet was fine
- Bullets have no affect on him
- Quickly recovered from the shockwave he and Omni-Man created (0.9 megatons of tnt) [Large Town Level]
Scaling
Homelander
The Boys + Normal Humans
- Butcher, Frenchie, and Hughie were able to survive Kenji pushing them away and dropping several things onto them
- Mother's Milk:
- Hughie & Frenchie:
- Kimiko:
- Billy Butcher:
- Random Humans:
Soldier Boy
- Ragdolled a soldier into the air
- Blasted Kimiko through a wall (0.0021-0.01 tons of tnt) [Wall-Small Building Level]
- Made a massive explosion that caused a shockwave, destroyed a house, and left Crimson Countess a charred corpse (0.0365-0.324 tons of tnt) [Small Building-Building Level]
- Destroyed the Herogasm building (0.478 tons of tnt) [Building Level]
- Destroyed a building (0.54-22 tons of tnt) [Building-Large Building Level]
- Created a massive explosion (1-37.25 tons of tnt) [Building-City Block Level]
- Butcher asserts a weapon that could kill Soldier Boy would have to be as strong as a hydrogen bomb (50-58 megatons of tnt) [City Level+] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
- Ran at Irrelevant speed 😂✌🏻
- Blocked Homelander's lasers (444766.6 & 663543.58 as well as 1.4% & 2.2% SOL for each individual movement) [Massively Hypersonic+-Sub-Relativistic] DEBATEABLE, SEE BEFORE VERDICT
Misc. Supes
As the greatest and most powerful supe of all time in his verse, he obviously upscales the lesser ones. But if you want to get into specifics, he has beaten the shit out of Ryan without even fully trying who had previously lasered the fuck out of Stormfront. He immediately started winning against Queen Maeve the second he started trying, and was tailgating A-Train, the fastest supe, in chase. And with the reasons stated previous he upscales Soldier Boy who had to be taken down by several supes at once previously. Safe to say he clearly upscales the supes in his verse.
- The Deep:
- Starlight:
- Black Noir 1:
- Black Noir 2:
- Queen Maeve:
- A-Train:
- Shockwave & Mr. Marathon:
- Stormfront:
- Kenji:
- Lamplighter:
- Numerous Other Supes:
The Immortal
Misc. Superheroes & Villains
As a character who consistently can hurt and keep up with Viltrumites, he should very clearly upscale all the non-viltrumite heroes and villains (aside from some higher tier exceptions but you get the point).
- Atom Eve:
- Atom Eve's siblings:
- Rex Splode:
- Dupli-Kate:
- Monster Girl:
- Robot:
- Bulletproof:
- Red Rush [ap only, as he is indicated to be much faster than the Immortal]:
- The Mauler Twins:
- Doc Seismic:
- Misc Heroes & Villains
Allen The Alien
- Threw a satellite at Invincible
- An opponent could not be found that could beat him...except Viltrumites
- Destroyed a giant space rock
- Survived a viltrumite attack that left him in a gigantic crater
- Was flown into the moon by Invincible (347 megatons of tnt) [Mountain Level]
- Cecil stated that an hour ago he was detected near mars and in 15 minutes he'll be breathing Earth's air (4% SOL) [Sub-Relativistic]
Invincible
While it was clearly indicated that, by season 2, Invincible was stronger and faster than Immortal, in Season 1 Immortal was able to actually hurt and catch Omni-Man off guard while Invincible wasn't able to leave a scratch on him and was getting blitzed throughout the fight alongside the fact that Invincible fought Omni-Man AFTER Immortal had. Meaning Omni-Man was likely even more tired by the time he fought Invincible than when he fought Immortal. So Immortal should be faster and stronger than Season 1 pre-strength increase Invincible.
- No sold a hit through a brick wall
- Slammed Tighten through a metal gate
- Kicked a rock nonchalantly and broke part of his house and skyrocketed into the air
- Punched a Re-Animan so hard he cratered the ground
- Was okay after being slammed through a statue
- Was slammed into the ground so hard is was turned to giant pieces
- Flew through concrete into a sewer
- Threw a big rock at Doc Seismic (33373.77 newtons of force) [Class 5]
- Threw a trashbag.....into space (363556.2 newtons of force) [Class 50]
- Was able to lifting a building was worn down (7558254.3 newtons of force) [Class K]
- Caught a stone head (158913997774.3 newtons of force) [Class G]
- Was punched all the way to Chicago and survived with minimal injury (0.038 tons of tnt) [Small Building Level]
- Was hit by a subway train alongside several people (9.3-118.1 megajoules) [Wall-Small Building Level]
- Was hit by Omni-Man hard enough to leave a giant path of destruction (0.2 tons of tnt) [Small Building Level+]
- Was hit with a satellite that exploded in his face yet was fine (5.86 tons of tnt) [Large Building Level]
- Caught a and threw baseball insanely fast (87.83 tons of tnt and 2009099430000 newtons of force) [City Block+ and Glass G]
- Flew Allen into the moon (347 megatons of tnt and 30% SOL) [Mountain Level and Relativistic]
- Caught and pushed back a meteor (347 megatons of tnt and 5663809900044 newtons of force) [Mountain Level+ and Glass G]
- Kept up with a commerical plane (244.5-257 m/s) [Subsonic+]
Omni-Man
While Immortal has been beaten by Omni-Man twice, he did somewhat hurt and keep up with Omni-Man, so he should scale to Omni-Man's lower end/casual feats.
- Splattered a battered the GTG
- Easily held a car with one hand (11565.3-25354.8 newtons of force) [Class 5]
- Held up a tank (655084.2 newtons of force) [Class K]
- Lifted and held a gigantic rock without budging (9062271367.7 newtons of force) [Class M]
- Crushed Red Rush's head (3-3.9 kilojoules) [Street Level]
- Punched Mark to Chicago (0.038 tons of tnt and 1097400.9 newtons of force) [Small Building Level and Class K striking strength]
- His punch additionally left a path of destruction (0.2 tons of tnt) [Small Building Level+]
- Threw a baseball across the world and caught one thrown the same way (0.9 kilotons of tnt and 2.86445777*10^11 newtons of force) [Multi-City Block+ and Class G]
- Was hit extremely hard into space yet survived (0.6-6001.69 tons of tnt) [Building-Town Level]
- Cracked a mountain (32 kilotons of tnt) [Town Level]
- Created a giant shockwave while fighting Immortal (0.9 megatons of tnt) [Large Town Level]
- Tanked the hammer effortlessly (1.9 megatons of tnt) [Small City Level]
- Destroyed the hammer (1.8 gigatons of tnt) [Large Mountain Level]
- Casually resisted a black hole without even trying (2.39 teratons of tnt) [Small Country Level]
- Could go grocery shopping fast (23861 m/s) [High Hypersonic+]
Before Verdicts
Relativistic Boys Feats?
So the Boys verse has quite a lot of "Relativistic" feats, and even one FTL feat, Homelander could potentially scale to. So lets go one by one and see if he actually does to any of them.
Random mom dodges a laser:
Probably the craziest feat here. A random mom dodges a laser. While it may seem good at first glance, as they are technically called lasers, it falls apart once you look closer at it. This is blatantly inconsistent with ANYTHING we've seen from other humans in the verse. No humans in the boys come even remotely close to this speed, so it's pretty blatantly an outliar. But even not considering that, the lasers.....don't even act like lasers. They are giant straight beams that don't refract or reflect at all, nor even do so much as blind a person. Their straight movement is somewhat like light but otherwise their nothing like it. So there is absolutely zero reason to believe this isn't just a case of a normal human dodging a miscellaneous beam that looks like a laser.
Soldier Boy blocks Homelander's lasers, Black Noir dodges his lasers, and A-Train moves way faster than them:
Both of these feats are questionable under the light of if Homelander's heat vision are lasers. Probably not. They move in a straight line and heat things up, but the more significant stuff like refraction and reflection are not shown by them. They also push people back like the blasts are physical and they aren't even really described as lasers. They are cleary a typical form of heat vision that aren't intended to be straight up light, and are pretty consistently avoided by characters in the show. So yeah none of these feats are valid.
A-Train reacts to Starlight's "electricity":
We really just keep jumping from one questionably light based supe attack to another. But this one shows the most promise. Starlight literally gets her powers from absorbing light and electricity after all. So are her blasts light or electricity? Nah. Realistically, light should be invisible until it bounces off something. So Starlight's blasts that can be seen before they hit anything make them seem much more like plasma projecting light than light itself. But at the same time fiction like, never follows this rule at all. Even with stuff that can be considered to be moving at the speed of light. But there is also some additonal points against it, such as it doing blunt damage instead of heated damage and even creating shockwaves which uh....light can't do. So there is way too many arguments against it being electricity or light versus the one implication it might be.
Ryan flies back from Russia:
Ok so this feat actually doesn't involve any light. And Homelander should logically upscale Ryan as Ryan is his son. So what's the problem? Well while he does get there in 1 second on screen, he was said to be late. Which makes him actually getting there in 1 second very questionable. Buuuuutttt at the same time this isn't directly contradictory. This feat is wobbly for sure but isn't crazy enough to not be considered a potential high end for Homie.
Nuke tanking and city destroying Homelander?
So Homelander has many statements involving him that compare him (and even Soldier Boy) to nukes and indicate that he could destroy a city. So how valid are these? Well to immediately get one out of the way, Madelyn Stillwell's statement about having tested every weapon on him has completely no grounds. Not only was she saying this to sell someone on Homelander, but it is completely unproven and realistically entirely implausible. Another one quick to debunk is Soldier Boy's comparison to a Hydrogen Bomb because uh.....Butcher indicates one would be needed to kill Soldier Boy. So he shouldn't scale to it since he would be killed by it. (I mean yeah MM did call him a "walking H-bomb, but that was more so a comparison than a confirmation of power).
Now for the more provable stuff. Stan Edgar saying Homelander's power is that of a neutron bomb....is actually probably true. Stan Edgar is someone who actively dislikes Homelander, literally considering him bad product. So he would have no personal reason to uplay his strength. On top of that, Stan Edgar has stakes in the military on top of direct experience himself. So he should know what a neutron bomb is capable of. So yeah this is pretty usable.
Now for the biggest one here. Both Homelander and Eric Kripke have indicated he could rip a city apart. Homelander himself could obviously just be gassing himself up. He is very self absorbed afterall. But Eric Kripke? He is the main writer for the show and has absolutely zero reason to gas him up in an art book of all things. But the problem lies not in the statement itself, but rather the context. We have no way of knowing how Homelander would destroy a city. He could do it one by one, and over the course of a week for all we know. There is no context for how long and how so Homelander could do it. So this as a feat isn't very usuable.
Mountain-Country Level heat vision?
Possibly the most powerful yet controversial feat in all of The Boys. Homelander does a big heat vision blast that can be seen from across the world. So do I think Homelander should be capable of this power? Yes and no.
For starters, he NEVER showcases this type power anytime after this feat is accomplished and while having V-One in his bloodstream. He doesn't even so much as increase his laser density like he did in the feat itself. So it is very clear he doesn't just have this power now, and simply showcased via an initial boost from the V-One. But I'd like to give another angle on it. While I don't think he could casually show off this type of power anytime he wants, I do think he could with the use of a not well thought about part of his arsenal; Compound-V. You see, when a supe uses Compound-V, they get a temporary boost in their powers.....just like the one Homelander got when initially injecting V-One, except much longer. So, if Homelander ever decided to use his metric fuck ton of Compound-V, he could potentially boost his power to this level. Although, it would realistically only scale to his heat vision, and not his physical AP and Durability, as it has shown to be able to cut through his skin before.
How "personally" did he take 10 cities off the map?
So basically, in Season 3, King Immortal was said to have "personally wiped 10 cities off the map". The problem with this feat is we don't know whether personally was him directly doing it, or simply nuking them. Since technically, the latter is still somewhat personal. So let's compare this scene, to another, very similar scene from a very similar angle to try and figure out whether Immortal destroyed them physically or not. That being when Omni-Man destroyed the Flaxan planet in what should be a very similar way if Immortal did it physically. As you can see here there are whisps of Omni-Man's flight and small explosions in the places he's destroying. In comparison, in the Immortal's showing there are giant explosions so sudden they happen nearly at the same time. While the explosions can be dimissed as simply more significant destruction, the lack of the speed whisps combined with the explosion happening so fast they happen nearly at the same time, make it seem much more like he is nuking them at a set time then doing it physically.
Verdicts
Experience
While this may seem extremely clear at first, there is definitely a precedent for Homelander having some standing here. He has been fighting other supes since he was a child and has fought a heavy variety of different supes and people of different expertise in his days. But the problem isn't his experience being bad, but more so it doesn't make much of a difference. Immortal may not have fought as varied of supe opponents, but it doesn't matter. Homelander is almost no different from a Viltrumite (of which he has fought many times) aside from his heat and x-ray vision and superior hearing. But even then those aren't so crazy as to the point Immortal would have no idea how to get around them. Especially with his centuries of life that may give him insight on how to go against those powers. Those many centuries could also lend him some outward knowledge on how to stop Homelander from using stuff like his Compound-V and stop Homelander from getting in his head. Making Homelander's experience essentially mute in comparison to Immortal's.
The Immortal takes experience.
Skill
Both are pretty skilled in a couple categories, but a good chunk of their skills aren't really useful here. So it primarily comes down to their combat skill. And to that, I'd actually argue Homelander has this. While yes, Homelander's combat is somewhat heightened by his powers, he still knows how to fight. He has fought relative characters in strength with good combat experience, like Butcher, a former SAS member, and Soldier Boy, a war veteran. In comparison, while Immortal could technically have better showing from his cebturies of experience, he hasn't really shown it. He never really shows much technique nor goes against anyone of heightened skill. His swordsmanship wouldn't really help his case as a sword would be almost entirely ineffective against Homelander. Homelander on the other hand, has seperate from his combat against trained men, performed consecutive blocks and counters, alongside dodges. So he shows more technique than the Immortal, who regularly just brute forces his way through fights. Homelander's body knowledge could also aid him here. As he could use it to potentially deafen Immortal, making him more susceptible to surpise. Overall, Homelander takes skill in strides.
Abilities
This one is close. Both of them share a fair amount of the same abilties. They share super strength, speed, flight, and even immortality. But both also have some unique abilties. Homelander's super hearing would allow him to hear Cecil in Immortal's ear and get rid of it. And his heat vision could burn Immortal's skin, as it can get up to 6332 degrees Fahrenheit compared to the max amount of heat Immortal is confrimed to withstand being 2282 degrees Fahrenheit, and his costume should be just as susceptible to burns as Nolan's. Almost 3x lower. But Immortal's got somd unique abilities of his own to combat Homelander's. Bringing Down The Boom would allow Immortal to do significantly more damage to Homelander with one big attack, and Staying Alive would allow him a second leash on life if Homelander was about to kill him through it's periodic Invincibility if Immortal is heavily injured. All of these unique abilties are relatively equal in usefulness, as they provide meaningful help that could be easily utilized. So the edge will have to rely in their shared abilties. While their super strength and speed advantage will be covered in stats, their flight and immorality are fair game. In which Immortal has a better version of both. Immortal's version of flight allows him to make his own leverage in comparison to Homelander who straight up is confirmed to not be able to. Meaning Immortal would simply be a more capable fighter in the air. And while it may not impact the fight much if at all, Immortal's immortality encompasses two to potentially four types of Immortality, in comparison to Homelander's one. So while this is close;
The Immortal takes abilties.
While probably not as significant as the other categories, their arsenals are definitely significant enough to mention. Most of their arsenals are useless, or very niche. While some of it is a little more than that (both of their ear pieces could be useful to learn about one another before they were inevitability destroyed early on). But both have one big "primary" part of their arsenal that truly makes a difference. Homelander's Compound-V, and the Immortal's artifacts. Most of Immortal's artifacts are....kinda trash. He does have two decently useful ones though the Obedience Collar, which once every 21 seconds, applies a confusion state on a random enemy (would only be Homelander in this case) for 3 seconds, while increasing the enemy's attack by 30% for 3 seconds. This would confuse Homelander constantly, making it hard for him to concentrate and his strength increase somewhat negligible. Then there's his best artifact, the GDA Cloaking Device. Which works by making the hero using it becomes invisible for 3 seconds, and their critical damage is increased by 35% for 3 seconds. An effect triggered every 16 seconds. The problem with the cloaking device though, is that it'd really only work once to give Immortal the advantage. After that Homelander would know to use his superior sense of smell and hearing to find out where Immortal is. These kinda just decent at best artifacts are really nothing in comparison to Homelander's Compound-V. Not only could it save him from dying like it did for Hughie's father, but it could amplify amplify his superpowers like it did for A-Train, likely to the same degree V-One did. While Homelander wouldn't be likely to use it immediately due to his god complex, if he feared he would die, he would most definitely use it just like how he did V-One. Since Immortal doesn't know what Compound-V is, it isn't likely he'd watch for Homelander using it, and only likely to stop it once its too late. So Homelander very clearly takes Arsenal.
We've finally come to the biggest and most important part of this debate. Their stats. For this, we'll be dividing it into 3 categories; Lifting Strength, AP & Durability, and Speed.
Lifting Strength
Both of these guys are pretty impressive in their liftinh strength. Homelander should upscale Stormfront whose character bio states she can fling anything lighter than a 747 out of her path which is 3892193.9 newtons of force or Class M. Meanwhile, the Immortal, on his own, could throw Bi-Plane into space which is worth 23256922 newtons of force (also Class M). This in itself is already quite a bit more than Homelander's best. But he gets even higher than that. His best lifting strength comes from upscaling Invincible in Season 1, who pushed back a giant meteor which is 5663809900044 newtons of force or Class G. That is 1591593.89792x stronger than Homelander's best. The Immortal is our clear winner here.
AP & Durability
These are probably the most interesting to compare stats of the three (technically four). Obviously Immortal sweeps both at their base. His best stuff coming out to 2.39 teratons of tnt via scaling to Omni-Man easily resisting the pull of a black hole, a Small Country Level feat which should likely scale to both his AP and Durability. Meanwhile the best Homelander's got is upscaling the Nubians who made a giant storm which is 9.7 kilotons of tnt, solidly Town Level. But with Compound-V, Homelander could boost his AP specifically all the way to 4.6 petatons of tnt via his lasers being seen around the world after he took V-One. But Immortal being more powerful in base is still important to mention, and his Bringing Down The Boom attack would be 500% more powerful than his base AP, sitting at 1.195 petatons of tnt, just 5.4 petatons shy of Homelander's lasers. So you could still argue he takes this. Wholeheartedly. But since overall it is still somewhat even, this category will be a tie.
Speed
This is the deciding category to see if Homelander and Immortal tie in Stats. So who gets it? Well without his many wanky debunked high speed scalings from other characters, the best you can get him is 2% the Speed of Light via scaling to Ryan flying from Russia to New York in a second, which is Sub-Relativistic. Not bad, but Immortal has multiple feats above it. Like him upscaling Allen moving from Mars to Earth fast, which is 4% the Speed of Light, which is further into Sub-Relativistic. And upscaling Invincible who flew Allen into the moon fast which is 30% the Speed of Light, which is Relativistic. Even if you are super generous and assume V-One being 10x more potent makes him 10x faster, he'd still only be 20% the Speed Of Light. 10% slower than the Immortal. This now seals Homelander's fate as...
The Immortal takes Stats
While Homelander is very impressive for a supe in his verse, Immortal has fought stronger and faster opponents. Immortal's superior speed, combined with his constantly acting passive abilties and overall superior strength would allow him to quickly overpower and kill John. Especially due to Homelander's ego, short sightedness, and overconfidence that would cloud his judgement in the fight until it's too late.
Conclusion
Homelander
Advantages:
- +More skilled in combat
- +Has a better arsenal
- +Could deafen the Immortal via clapping against his ears
- +Could use his heat vision to burn Immortal to death...
- +Has higher Attack Potency after taking Compound-V...
- =Could easily get rid of the Immortal's GDA Earpiece
- =Could be put into an unstable blind rage
- -Much slower no matter what
- -Overconfident and has an ego
- -Short-sighted
- -Lower lifting strength
- -Worse abilties
- -Less usable experience
- -...but Immortal would be too fast for him to realistically pull that off
- -...but lower Attack Potency in base and would still be able to be hurt just the same
The Immortal
Advantages:
- +Faster no matter what
- +Higher lifting strength
- +Is more durable
- +Has more usable experience
- +Has better and several passive abilties
- +Has higher AP in base...
Equal:
- =Could easily get rid of Homelander's Ear Phone Communicator
- =Could be put into an unstable blind rage
- -Worse and almost entirely useless arsenal
- -Less skilled in combat
- -...but has lower AP after Homelander uses Compound-V
Final Tally
- Homelander (0)
- The Immortal (1) - Me, the only one who worked on this lol
Sources
- Battle Merchant
- Homelander vs. Wesker Blog
- ScreenRant (for the Immortality and Reactive Evolution images)
- Immortal Respect Thread
- The Boys Wiki
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